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    Hi!

    Since it is not possible to post replies in the Announcements section, I decided to go an and create a discussion thread for this announcement here:

    https://forums.dathorn.com/showthread.php?t=3769

    First off, Happy New Year everyone! It's nice to see how Dathorn is getting better and better over time, especially, given that the last year was by no means easy and the years to come probably are not going to be any easier either.

    Once these upgrades are complete you can expect a significant increase in our hosting plan disk quotas across the board.
    Miam-miam-miam!

    Other than that, I actually wonder if the new LiteSpeed infrastructure is going to make it any easier to support custom FCGI / SCGI / UWSGI backends in the future. Not that I am not happy with what I can do now, but using plain CGI clearly prevents anything like Python / Ruby to be used for anything serious other than just playing around...

    Also, is RHEL6-based up-to-date Python / Ruby stack coming out-of-the box?

    I wonder if you did any 32/PAE vs. 64 benchmarks. My hunch would be that the syscall overhead would kill basically kill the benefits of having untranslated memory for shared scenario when there are lots of small processes none of which actually needs / allowed to take that much, so probably 32 is still the way to go?

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    Really looking forward to the extra space and new control panel.

    Thanks Andrew!

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    Thanks guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by ZYV View Post
    Other than that, I actually wonder if the new LiteSpeed infrastructure is going to make it any easier to support custom FCGI / SCGI / UWSGI backends in the future. Not that I am not happy with what I can do now, but using plain CGI clearly prevents anything like Python / Ruby to be used for anything serious other than just playing around...
    For Ruby, yes. Python, no (or perhaps not yet). We hope to add proper Ruby support after the servers are upgraded. The concern with it is simply resource usage related. It's just not as performance friendly as PHP on a shared hosting server.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZYV View Post
    Also, is RHEL6-based up-to-date Python / Ruby stack coming out-of-the box?

    I wonder if you did any 32/PAE vs. 64 benchmarks. My hunch would be that the syscall overhead would kill basically kill the benefits of having untranslated memory for shared scenario when there are lots of small processes none of which actually needs / allowed to take that much, so probably 32 is still the way to go?
    When we first started setting up the current servers there were still lingering compatibility issues that stopped us from going with 64 bit. The new servers will be 64 bit. They will have quite a bit more RAM.

    We hope to utilize RHEL 6 on the new servers. cPanel is apparently dragging their feet though so we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewT View Post
    It's just not as performance friendly as PHP on a shared hosting server.
    I tend to agree with you, but to my mind it is mostly the profile of a typical client that would want to use these technologies that is more of a problem :-)

    I've lost track of what is being used right now, I guess it must be LS PHP-SAPI, which is performance-wise comparable to PHP-FPM / FastCGI, but for small scripts basically costs nothing. While Django + FastCGI leaves PHP in the dust under high load (from my experience), the initial overhead for small lightly-loaded websites is much higher (and probably unacceptable for mass shared hosting).

    Ok, anyway :-) If there happens to be a solution that is acceptable and slightly better than CGI, I will be very happy, otherwise, we are probably so few that it doesn't make much sense to invest more effort into it. This is perfectly understandable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewT View Post
    The new servers will be 64 bit. They will have quite a bit more RAM. We hope to utilize RHEL 6 on the new servers. cPanel is apparently dragging their feet though so we'll see.
    Wow! Up-to-date Python! Pure 64-bit userland! Yay! Best of luck with your endeavors!

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