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  • LVZ
    Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 52

    #1

    Google vs Yahoo - the MB/GB wars

    Yahoo must be feeling the heat from the still unlaunched Google Gmail. This morning I see that my free Yahoo email which had been limited to 6MB, now is 100MB and attachments can be up to 10MB.

    I don't use Yahoo email that often but it is nice to know now I don't have to be constantly on guard against going over the MB limit any more from the inevitable spam that creeps in despite your best efforts.

    Ain't competition great?!!!

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  • james
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 183

    #2
    LVZ,

    Yeh - how good is it!

    All I need now is a Gmail account?

    You don't feel like inviting me by any chance do you?

    Thanks,

    James

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    • -Oz-
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2004
      • 545

      #3
      I have gmail, pretty nice.
      Dan Blomberg

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      • DomainDog
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 158

        #4
        Originally posted by -Oz-
        I have gmail, pretty nice.
        I've heard that Google goes through every one of your private emails sent or received through their Gmail server, and uses that data they collect about you to build an ad serving profile about you.

        I think that's really creepy.
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        • Jonathan
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2004
          • 1229

          #5
          its just using the same tech that AdSense does
          "How can someone be so distracted yet so focused?"
          - C

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          • openbox
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2004
            • 238

            #6
            Originally posted by DomainDog
            I've heard that Google goes through every one of your private emails sent or received through their Gmail server, and uses that data they collect about you to build an ad serving profile about you.

            I think that's really creepy.
            True, but it is free email and 1 gigabyte of storage

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            • -Oz-
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2004
              • 545

              #7
              What do I care, the government already does it (NSA). It's not like i keep secret things in there... I don't really even use it (just testing).

              I have plenty of other emails :-D
              Dan Blomberg

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              • Jonathan
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 1229

                #8
                NSA only tracks between known
                or suspected email addies

                Also NSA usually shares their list,
                and vis versa, with SIS.
                "How can someone be so distracted yet so focused?"
                - C

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                • openbox
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 238

                  #9
                  Don't forget the FBI's Carnivore

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                  • DomainDog
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 158

                    #10
                    No one seems to care about the ever-growing intrusions into our privacy till it step up and bites 'em on the 'arse.
                    That's when people scream and shout, "How dare they!"

                    I think people need to read George Orwell's 1984 again (or for the first time if they haven't). Maybe they'll begin see that his predictions of cameras and monitors everywhere, and constant scrutiny into people's private affairs are beginning to come true. Once you surrender your privacy, you will never get it back.

                    Here's a few thought's to consider:

                    "Privacy is the right to be alone--the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by civilized man."
                    Author: Louis D. Brandeis

                    "There is a sacred realm of privacy for every man and woman where he makes his choices and decisions-a realm of his own essential rights and liberties into which the law, generally speaking, must not intrude."
                    Author: Geoffrey Fisher

                    "The personal life of every individual is based on secrecy, and perhaps it is partly for that reason that civilised man is so nervously anxious that personal privacy should be respected."
                    Author: Anton Chekhov

                    "Modern Americans are so exposed, peered at, inquired about, and spied upon as to be increasingly without privacy--members of a naked society and denizens of a goldfish bowl."
                    Author: Edward V. Long

                    "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail."
                    Author: Henry L. Stimson
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                    • DosEvil
                      Member
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 38

                      #11
                      Its a smart move on Yahoo's part to keep its clients from moving. Rather then deal with the hassle of switching e-mails.

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                      • openbox
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 238

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DomainDog
                        No one seems to care about the ever-growing intrusions into our privacy till it step up and bites 'em on the 'arse. That's when people scream and shout, "How dare they!"
                        I gave up my privacy a long time back as well have a lot of people. After all, most people do submit to security screening when asked. A lot of people have internet access and have no qualms about unknowingly letting any Tom, Dick, or Harry roam through their computer potentially loaded with personal information. A lot of Americans own homes which is a matter of public record. The county I live in displays all of our homeowners information on their website. How much we paid, our names, our mortgage holder, etc. It's all a matter of public record, but there's enough info there to gain a good picture of my personal life.

                        I personally think having privacy is having a false sense of hope. As long as no one financially obligates me for something using my identity, I'm not concerned about lack of privacy...I've got nothing to hide

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                        • DomainDog
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 158

                          #13
                          Originally posted by openbox
                          .......... I'm not concerned about lack of privacy...I've got nothing to hide
                          Those are the same words spoken by most of histories proletariats- the Russians under Stalin, the Cambobians under Pol Pot, the Germans under Hitler, etc...... If your personal privacy doesn't matter, then you have surrendered your most basic of human rights.

                          "All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
                          English philosopher Edmund Burke

                          "The man who stands neutral usually stands for nothing"
                          Archie Moore

                          "We deal with a right of privacy older than the Bill of Rights-older than our political parties, older than our school system."
                          William O. Douglas
                          Last edited by DomainDog; 06-16-2004, 01:01 PM.
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                          • reviewum.com
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 63

                            #14
                            Moderation in all things... I definately don't want to have microphones in my house, or spy cameras in the bathrooms, but personally I think there is too much of a scare regarding targeted advertising. I hear people complain about grocery store cards and that the store is tracking your purchases...

                            Hey, if they can save some trees by not sending me coupons for tampons, but save me some money and send more coupons for cookie dough ice cream... then so be it!

                            This competetive capitalistic society is what (IMHO) makes the best countries the best! If I'm a consumer I want to know about new products that match what I want... if I am a, or work for a seller, distributor or manufacturer of goods or services (which most of us are) then I want them to be able to sell more and more of their products more efficiently. If I am a stockholder in a company, then the same is true!

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                            • DomainDog
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 158

                              #15
                              Originally posted by reviewum.com
                              If I'm a consumer I want to know about new products that match what I want... if I am a, or work for a seller, distributor or manufacturer of goods or services (which most of us are) then I want them to be able to sell more and more of their products more efficiently.
                              Isn't that what spammers are trying to do?

                              Do you support their right to "inform you" about their products that "match" your Gmail-created profile?

                              How about when the cable company monitors all your cable choices and pay-per-view purchases, then sells this information to companies so they can "inform" you about products that match your TimeWarner/Cox profile?

                              What if your doctor disclosed your personal medical records (for a fee, of course) to companies who market pills and potions for your medical condition, so they can "inform" you of their pills and potions?

                              Where do we draw the line, and who is supposed to do the drawing, if we ourselves surrender our personal privacy? Will it be the benign corporations, who will never invade your personal space (unless they can make a buck)? Or perhaps the government?
                              Last edited by DomainDog; 06-16-2004, 08:07 PM.
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