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  • Jonathan
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 1229

    #1

    Bush Won!!!

    BUSH WON
    Betty Castor finally gave up! Mel Martenz won

    Above all, I'm happy to see that neither Castor nor Kerry
    demanded a recount (though for a while there, both were edging that way).

    Four more years, rock on!

    Man, stupid vB limits me on the # of smiles
    "How can someone be so distracted yet so focused?"
    - C
  • ChrisTech
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 530

    #2
    Kerry gave up before the total ballots were counted, and Bush declared victory last night, once again before total ballots were counted.

    And what we have now, is a country that is divided. Almost half and half.
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    • Jonathan
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2004
      • 1229

      #3
      Originally posted by ChrisTech
      Kerry gave up before the total ballots were counted, and Bush declared victory last night, once again before total ballots were counted.

      And what we have now, is a country that is divided. Almost half and half.
      I may have been watching the wrong channel, but
      I did not see Bush declare victory last night.

      Plus, isn't it the Electorial votes before Popularity vote?
      Or maybe the other way around...

      Even so, wouldn't he have won if the ballots added up
      with him in favor even if he had given up?
      "How can someone be so distracted yet so focused?"
      - C

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      • Buddha
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 825

        #4
        United we stand, divided we fall.

        Originally posted by ChrisTech
        Kerry gave up before the total ballots were counted, and Bush declared victory last night, once again before total ballots were counted.

        And what we have now, is a country that is divided. Almost half and half.
        Common Ground:

        Iraq War & War on Terrorism
        National Solvency
        Deficit Spending
        Social Security & Medicare
        Import/Export Deficit
        Jobs
        Taxes
        Education

        The common ground between our divide is the problem we face as nation. We either come together to solve these problems or these problems may force their own solutions on us.

        We are at war and at the same time facing financial ruin. Wars are won and lost because of logistics. Right now our supply lines are dependent on Asia and Europe buying our US Treasury notes. Niether Asia or Europe are exactly in in favor of our war in Iraq. This is a every bad position to be in for any nation.

        Kerry has conceded, Bush has won re-election. Do we come together to save our nation for the next generation? Or do we destroy this nation because we can not put aside our differences? I prefer the former and will make my opinion known to my representatives but my guns are clean and loaded for the latter because my family comes first, second and last.

        God bless America.
        "Whatcha mean I shouldn't be rude to my clients?! If you want polite then there will be a substantial fee increase." - Buddha

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        • Jonathan
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2004
          • 1229

          #5
          RE: United we stand, divided we fall

          Originally posted by Buddha
          Common Ground:

          Iraq War & War on Terrorism
          National Solvency
          Deficit Spending
          Social Security & Medicare
          Import/Export Deficit
          Jobs
          Taxes
          Education

          The common ground between our divide is the problem we face as nation. We either come together to solve these problems or these problems may force their own solutions on us.

          We are at war and at the same time facing financial ruin. Wars are won and lost because of logistics. Right now our supply lines are dependent on Asia and Europe buying our US Treasury notes. Niether Asia or Europe are exactly in in favor of our war in Iraq. This is a every bad position to be in for any nation.

          Kerry has conceded, Bush has won re-election. Do we come together to save our nation for the next generation? Or do we destroy this nation because we can not put aside our differences? I prefer the former and will make my opinion known to my representatives but my guns are clean and loaded for the latter because my family comes first, second and last.

          God bless America.
          Very true there Buddha; alot of people I've talked to online say that
          they're fearful. Why? Because if we continue elections and what not
          as this has been going on, such hateful attitudes towards another...

          Its only a matter of time before civil war will erupt
          I just hope we'll be smart enough to buckup, shutup, and clean up.
          "How can someone be so distracted yet so focused?"
          - C

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          • Frank Hagan
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2004
            • 724

            #6
            For the first time in a long time a candidate has won more than 50% of the votes cast to be President. To say we are hopelessly divided because of that is just silly. A wide plurality of states voted to re-elect Bush, and the popular vote of 3.5 million more than his challenger is a 2 to 3 point margin. Only in tremendous landslides, like President Reagan had, do you see larger margins.

            There are always ballots not counted when a winner is declared. If Mr. A is ahead by 10,000, and there are 5,000 ballots outstanding, do you need to count them to know that Mr. A has won?

            John Kerry stated that was the reason he conceded. There was no possible way that he could win Ohio, and without Ohio, he couldn't win the Presidency. With his concession speech, he returned us to the long-standing tradition in this country of fighting hard, then focusing on the most important task, remembering that the country comes first. This is a tradition that was broken only once, in 2000, due to a very close race. However, even then, it was statistically impossible for a recount to overturn the initial count. It is to Kerry's credit that he did what he did today. He was a statesman. We are lucky to have had him as a candidate. God bless John Kerry.

            We are not hopelessly divided ... this is NORMAL. If the Republicans beat the Democrats by 40 points, it would be a one-party system. I don't think we want that. By the next cycle, the Democrats will be back with a message that more closely matches the sentiments of the majority, so they have a chance to regain power. That's the way the system works.

            The glass, gentlemen, is half full.

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            • Jonathan
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2004
              • 1229

              #7
              Originally posted by Frank Hagan
              The glass, gentlemen, is half full.
              I don't know, seems half empty to me
              "How can someone be so distracted yet so focused?"
              - C

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              • -Oz-
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 545

                #8
                This election was actually much further apart than the 2000 election, and with Bush winning the popular vote by 3million people I'm pretty sure he's good to go.
                Dan Blomberg

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                • LVZ
                  Member
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 52

                  #9
                  The Long Term Solution



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                  • ThomasW
                    Member
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 98

                    #10
                    Saw this in an email from CNN/Money this morning, I would show it to my co-workers, but they might hit me... ironic given what good advice it is.

                    ================================================== =====
                    Tucker's Two Cents

                    The number of people who think the world has just ended is amazing. Grow Up. Get Over It. Move On. It was an election. South Park will still be funny. Jon Stewart will still be number one in Fake News. Housewives will remain desperate. Keep your sense of humor for heaven's sake... for all of our sakes. Laughter can change more than you imagine. Look at the radical Islamists...look over at the far Christian right....and yes, take a gander over on the agnostic far left. Look at any extreme for that matter. The one constant is nobody is laughing in any of those quarters. They should. They probably won't though. People who laugh have lower blood pressure....and hey, the bottom line is: the system worked.

                    Catch Tucker on Lou Dobbs Tonight
                    http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

                    ================================================== =====
                    "The word genius isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein!" ... Joe Theisman

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                    • Buddha
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 825

                      #11
                      Let's walk together to that shining city on the hill ...

                      I like to think myself as "hopefully conservative" in my outlook for the future. Admittedly I have never embrace an optimistic outlook. I plan for the worse and hope for the best. As for the glass being either half full or half empty, well ... my boy Bush did win. Yeehaw!! However I would just rather walk with the other half of America to that shining city on the hill then drag them kicking and screaming.

                      To come together doesn't mean you give up your values or concede to the values of the others, it just means you show respect for the values of others. Doesn't every citizen deserve respect? You may continue to disagree but you just do it respectfully. I think such respect has been missing for some time not only in our government but among the people. I think here at Dathorn we've been doing rather well showing each other the respect we deserve. I hope it continues.
                      Last edited by Buddha; 11-04-2004, 08:15 AM.
                      "Whatcha mean I shouldn't be rude to my clients?! If you want polite then there will be a substantial fee increase." - Buddha

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                      • Jonathan
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1229

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Buddha
                        To come together doesn't mean you give up your values or concede to the values of the others, it just means you show respect for the values of others. Doesn't every citizen deserve respect? You may continue to disagree but you just do it respectfully. I think such respect has been missing for some time not only in our government but among the people. I think here at Dathorn we've been doing rather well showing each other the respect we deserve. I hope it continues.
                        They do deserve respect, but often times alot of people do not get it.
                        Some people refuse it based on age, looks, color, experience, etc.

                        I hope it continues as well, we have done a good job, no?
                        "How can someone be so distracted yet so focused?"
                        - C

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                        • Anthony
                          Member
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 30

                          #13
                          Up here in the hippy liberal land of the north, the 51st stateof Canada, I think we wanted Kerry to win. All in all, I don't care who won, just keep your economy going. Cuz if it bombs, ours bombs with yours

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                          • Buddha
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 825

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Anthony
                            Up here in the hippy liberal land of the north, the 51st stateof Canada, I think we wanted Kerry to win. All in all, I don't care who won, just keep your economy going. Cuz if it bombs, ours bombs with yours
                            If you guys up there in Canada could export less cold air this winter that would help keep our economies going. I have no idea why people are so down on Global Warming could be the one thing that saves the economy!
                            "Whatcha mean I shouldn't be rude to my clients?! If you want polite then there will be a substantial fee increase." - Buddha

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                            • Anthony
                              Member
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 30

                              #15
                              Or could be the one thing that stops the Gulf stream from contiuiing, hence creating those 3 big storms, all this comes from that very very very scientific movie, The day after tommorow


                              It would then freeze your/our economies...permanently

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