Advanced Reseller Accounts Available?

[reviewum.com]

Once everything calms down a bit I'd be curious to know if Andrew has been thinking about options for those who outgrow the standard accounts.

There was talk before about VPS, but I think Andrew decided no on that one. If I remember, I think there was talk about servers with less users on them and paying a premium for this.

It would be great to have the option to stay with Dathorn when accounts start to grow too big (forums, etc.).

This way when someone is using too many resources they can be given the option to upgrade, or find another home.

Any ideas on this?

[-Oz-]

As far as I know that option is not planned for anytime in the near future, you can buy two of the highest accounts though. Andrew will have to further comment on this.

[Jonathan]

As far as I know that option is not planned for anytime in the near future, you can buy two of the highest accounts though. Andrew will have to further comment on this.

Hmm, but buying two of the "highest accounts" will not help,
if its an resources-intensive site, such as very large forums, etc.

I believe Andrew offers dedicated servers ?
I read about it once on the old forums, and inquired about it;
saddly to say, lol, it was website only; no gaming hosting, etc.

[Andy]

Last I heard on the old forums Andrew was not going to offer VPS/VDS services. Was not feesible.

[AndrewT]

VPS/VDS service simply is not going to happen unless some major breakthrough occurs as right now it's not very cost efficient for anyone given the prices of dedicated servers these days (and we do not offer these either). Currently I want to perfect one thing at a time

[reviewum.com]

Hey Andrew, you're sporting 99.% perfection on my server which is pretty darn good, and support time is also pretty excellent!

Do you forsee an option for a server with fewer resellers per server for those with popular forums, etc.

Maybe you should partner up with a company that provides VPS, dedicated, or something else. I keep reading on WHM about all these people that love it here but have to move because their sites are too popular.

Keep up the good work!

[AndrewT]

Eventually we likely will end up offering dedicated servers, but right now we really have enough on our plate which includes upgrading all "old" servers to new hardware and our new backup system.

[pcpowerplay]

I remember you also said that you will release reseller accounts with overselling - any chance of that happening soon (within the next month)?

[Jonathan]

I remember you also said that you will release reseller accounts with overselling - any chance of that happening soon (within the next month)?

I'd hope Andrew would not do this!
From what I remember, Andrew wasn't going to allow overselling peroid...
Is my memory failing me (again)?

[AndrewT]

There will likely not be any other reseller accounts offered. But as I've said, right now none of this is even close to being a priority.

[pcpowerplay]

I'd hope Andrew would not do this!
From what I remember, Andrew wasn't going to allow overselling peroid...
Is my memory failing me (again)?

No... I remember he said he would put it on different servers - not the servers were currently on now.

[kkbbzzaa]

Overselling is not always bad. I have recently opened an account here and didn't notice of this not overselling policy. I use my reseller account only for my sites, and I don't like the fact that I need to think about how much resources to give to each account.

I mean; I don't like the fact that maybe a site with not so many bandwidth resource gets a boom in traffic and it exceeds its bandwidth while another site has plenty to give.

I'm not complaining but this is a risk I prefer not to take.

Regards,

Mateo

[-Oz-]

Ah yes, but would you rather risk that someone oversold so much that the server crashes constantly because there isn't enough CPU power or BW to go around?

[kkbbzzaa]

Bandwidth is not a problem if dathorn doesn’t do overselling. Example: I create two 25GB bandwidth accounts, when I have only 30 GB to sell (this is overselling). The bandwidth will be exceeded if both account sum up a 30 GB transfer. So while I actually did the overselling the server was not compromised.

CPU is different because there is no way to know how many was used. But as the bandwidth and disk space can't be actually tricked this should not be a problem.

This is why I think dathorn should let some overselling be done.

[Frank Hagan]

Sometime go to http://www.whois.sc/ and enter the URL of a site hosted on one of the mega-hosts that oversell ... like iPowerWeb, for instance.

You will find not a few hundred sites on that server, but thousands. Thousands! Simultaneous hits on that server from just a few thousand will slow the response down. Its not strictly a bandwidth or diskspace issue.

The next step up from a reseller account would be a virtual private server; you can oversell on it. You'll have three to six other webhosts allowed to oversell on that virtual private server as well. Depending on who your neighbors are on that VPS, it may work out OK. That will be the next step for me if business gets big enough.