Neko or other haXe based backends.

[JLM]

Hi AndrewT and Dathorn,

I would like to write end to end haXe ( http://www.haxe.org ). Can you put Neko on my space?...

haXe can compile to PHP - but my tests ( sugggest it is not good to work with haxe php... does not seem to access sqlite properly when I know the neko version does - sure it can be made to work but with PHP it will always be more flaky via haXe ) and others opinions suggest PHP is not a good target, and Neko target programming language seems much more robust target.

I have borrowed some test space with mod_tora installed, a tora neko server, but I can't run sites from there, only test, I would like to use haXe compiled Neko on my site with server like mod_neko or mod_tora.

I mainly want to run some front end 3d flash sites written in haXe or some haXe html5 javascript driven by small sqlite or mysql database, but I want to avoid using php code as it is horrible, I did try to use the rails on cpanel but rails is slower than custom neko and anyway the cpanel module seems not to be setup?

Since haXe has several compiler targets - alternative solutions might include compiling to c++ ( not sure what server it would use ) or v8 and running node.js ( via HXnode ), so not so fussy!

Obviously I understand that there maybe limits to what you can provide on shared hosting, but would be very greatful if atleast you could install neko with fgi as I believe it is very tricky if not impossible to setup on my account myself ( see gamehaxe for install info ), and the CGI setup gamehaXe suggested for shared hosting seems rather hacky, but you maybe able to advise on.


Many Thanks

Justin
Justinfront.net

PS: Alternatively can you email me ( my forum name at my site ) with details of budget dedicated server plans, I don't believe there are any shared hosting offering Neko ( or other haXe backends ) despite lots of traction in it's use on some large sites, so you may find quite a lot of interest from haXe users that don't already have dedicated servers.

[AndrewT]

Hello,

Per my reply to your "Contact Us" form submission, we do not have any plans to install these nor are they something that you could install on a shared hosting account.

As far as dedicated servers are concerned, we do not offer what most would consider to be "budget" options. We only provide top of the line hardware with full management. Pricing starts at around $300/month.

[JLM]

Sorry did not get email till just now as had some email set issues I had to sort.

I had neko via CGI working via these insructions ( details in email ).

http://gamehaxe.com/2009/12/03/neko-on-shared-hosting/

All I want is the haxeneko folder put in bin ( I think it was removed, but I have not tried recently and can no longer access bin ) and wired up similar to how you have PHP FGI setup, for example something along the lines of.. no further support would be required, once its wired it will just work.

http://gamehaxe.com/2009/12/04/fastcgi-for-neko-on-share-hosting/

[AndrewT]

Sorry, as already stated, we have no plans to install or offer this. You would likely want to find a VPS where you can setup and configure this as you desire.

[JLM]

I don't have budget for $300 dollars a month, I do create flash for design agencies that have clients that might fund this type of budget, although I guess even then it would take atleast several clients... but it's kind of chicken and egg .

[AndrewT]

I fully understand that. This is why I would suggest finding a suitable VPS provider if this is truly something that you want to do. You likely won't need the full resources of a dedicated server anyways. You would have root access with the VPS and as such you could configure it however you like.

[JLM]

Ok, I found a fairly cheap VPS that looks fine, justinfront.net is hosted via a friend and currently I also have onsalsa hosted for my friend so prob won't be leaving at mo, just having to get another space elsewhere and create a link over to justinfront.com space . Sorry to be a nuisance thanks for getting back to me.

[AndrewT]

No problem at all. I hope everything works out!

[ZYV]

The CGI version will work on Dathorn, however, I don't know how efficient it is going to be. I guess for portfolio websites, that don't get much traffic nobody will ever notice, but once you will start getting traffic, this will get you into the trouble.

FCGI solution won't work, because for obvious reasons opening ports, sockets or whatnot is not allowed and hanging processes will be killed.

You need quite a bit of expertize to get it running though, which would probably involve doing the real work in your local clean RHEL5 chroot and then transferring the pre-compiled binaries to your account.

In the end, if you have the kind of expertize required it will be easier to rent a cheap VPS (never forget about the backups) and set it up there